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When Juvenal wrote mens sana in corpore sano, did he mean that a healthy body is the consequence of a healthy mind, or did he mean that a healthy mind is the consequence of a healthy body? Ancient Romans were attentive to fitness. I would rather think of it as keep your body healthy and your mind will follow. If so, then the Von Neumann Link was a fruit of hubris: healing the mind without assessing the collateral effects on the body is bad, really bad! I do not want to go on with him like this: I would rather die than be this frustrated.

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