Seizing Dreams [B1]

Ch 131.2

And now they really did start arguing! The two male gods are debating?!

"No matter what the understanding of people themselves is," Lin Ze said, "from the perspective of the ultimate goal of our survival, it's all the same. Let's not talk about nihilism, isn't it just seeking freedom? Drink."

Chen Yekai had to drink. He put his elbow on the dining table and said, "Then do you think we're free now?"

"At this moment," Lin Ze said, "I'm free. Because I have no strong desires, my free will isn't bound by desire."

Chen Yekai, "So, wouldn't this lead us back to our original question? We just keep suppressing ourselves because we know that life is bitterly short. Whatever we can't get, we pretend we don't want. But in reality, a lot of thoughts are like beasts that still know how to navigate — after you chase them away, they still know where your house is, and they will still return one night, right? You have to tame them."

Lin Ze stopped talking. Chen Yekai pointed at a wine glass, and it was Lin Ze's turn to drink now.

"Only then, can one's innermost self and personality be integrated," Chen Yekai said, "And obtain true freedom."

Everyone was eating hot pot as they listened to their debate, and no one interrupted at the moment.

Lin Ze said, "All activities on the surface are just illusions that make us feel free."

Chen Yekai, "......"

Lin Ze turned the tables, and pointed at a glass.

It was Chen Yekai's turn to drink. Chen Yekai took a sip of wine. Zhou Sheng poured wine for them both. Chen Yekai was suddenly inspired by Lin Ze's words, "He denies the existence of free will, but do you think you have free will? You acknowledge him, so acknowledge that people's desires will never be satisfied. Desires that have been fulfilled will be replaced by unfulfilled desires. Acknowledging that happiness is only satisfying because of a momentary relief from pain means that you no longer believe in idealism."

After he said this, Chen Yekai raised an eyebrow at Lin Ze expectantly.

Lin Ze said, "I don't entirely agree with his point of view, he even promotes asceticism."

Chen Yekai, "But according to your logic, that is the case."

Still, Lin Ze had to admit that Chen Yekai's logical counterattack had struck a weak point, so he drank.

Only then did Yu Hao understand. Lin Ze had used Schopenhauer's argument to refute Chen Yekai, but Chen Yekai caught a loophole in his argument.

Lin Ze, "I just think that many goals and ideals can be changed. Before starting a family, you have certain ideals, and after starting a family, you have different ideals. This depends on the circumstances in your life; it's the same reasoning behind the pursuit of satisfying one's desires."

Chen Yekai said, "But some things exist purely because of one's natural instincts, it will never change from the first time you come into contact with it until the day you die."

Lin Ze, "For example?"

Chen Yekai didn't say anything. Zhou Sheng laughed, and when he was about to clink glasses with them, Lin Ze said after not getting an answer, "For me, ideals are like train stations. Passing by stop after stop, I don't need to think about my destination."

Yu Hao thought, yes! That's so well said!

"For me......" Chen Yekai pondered about it, and stopped debating.

"......it is the Polaris in the city." Chen Yekai said, "Living in a bustling downtown, the light from the lamps will cover up its radiance. But it's always in the sky, it's just that we can't see it.